1982
Saliva Tears Tour ’81-’82 – Leg 2
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January – April27 Shows
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Info
- 8 shows of this tour were cancelled
- Concert Poster: Saliva Tears Tour ’81-’82
- T-Shirt: Saliva Tears Tour ’81-’82 (with Roxon Tape) – Thanks to Andy Murphy
- Fish – 1982
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03.01.1982 – The Marquee Club, London
01 He Knows You Know
02 Garden Party
03 The Web
04 Forgotten Sons
05 Three Boats Down From The Candy
06 Charting The Single- Supporting: Spider
- Setlist by Mike Eldon
Marillion/Separated Out – The Complete History 1979-2002
Marillion’s first date of 1982 was back at the Marquee, supporting a band called Spider. This had two impacts, not least the fact that Nigel Hutchings, the manager of the Marquee, was so impressed, that he offered Marillion a headline on the 25th of the same month. “Word spread quite quickly, before long we were packing it out,” says Mick. More exciting still was the presence, unbeknown by the band, of Tony Wilson, who was producer of the BBC’s Radio 1 Friday Rock Show at the time. According to Mark, “Spider‘s manager was a girl called Maggie Farren, Tony Wilsons’s girlfriend.” A fortunate coincidence indeed, leading directly to the offer of a slot on the show.
(Jon Collins: Marillion/Separated Out – The Complete History 1979-2002)-
Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Diz Minnitt – Bass
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
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06.01.1982 – Electric Stadium, Chadwell Heath (London)
Setlist unknown- Ad with club dates
- Marillion with Duphoria’s Last Dance
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Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Diz Minnitt – Bass
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
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11.01.1982 – Green Man, Leytonstone
Setlist unknown- "The Green Man Pub in Leytonstone. Following my first experience of Marillion at Friars, this was my next chance to see the band as they travelled to east London in December 1981. Turned out to be my most surreal Marillion gig ever. That evening it was snowing quite heavily. I drove myself and a friend to Leytonstone, slipping & sliding the whole way. Ended up with four of us in the audience watching five guys in the band! Understandably, they just used the evening as a bit of a jam session."
(Mark Palman @ Facebook, 10.06.2019)
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Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Diz Minnitt – Bass
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
- "The Green Man Pub in Leytonstone. Following my first experience of Marillion at Friars, this was my next chance to see the band as they travelled to east London in December 1981. Turned out to be my most surreal Marillion gig ever. That evening it was snowing quite heavily. I drove myself and a friend to Leytonstone, slipping & sliding the whole way. Ended up with four of us in the audience watching five guys in the band! Understandably, they just used the evening as a bit of a jam session."
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12.01.1982 – Mad Hatters, Luton
01 He Knows You Know
02 Garden Party
03 The Institution Waltz
04 The Web
05 Forgotten Sons
06 Three Boats Down From The Candy
07 Charting The Single
08 Grendel
09 Margaret
10 Garden Party- Concert Poster and Setlist – Thanks to Mike Eldon
- Ticket
- Support Band: Odd Ends
- "Odd Ends support. Funny night. Brian kept buying me drinks! (nice fellow!) Marillion hid behind support bars for ceiling. Jumped stage and sang "Charting" for Fish who was a bit lazy. Fell into Mick’s kit."
(Paul Shorter’s diary – 12.01.1982) - "Supported by Odd Ends. It was a Battle Of The Bands night… I guess they lost as they never played here again!"
(Mike Eldon)
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Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Diz Minnitt – Bass
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
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18.01.1982 – Starlight Club, West Hampstead (London)
01 He Knows You Know
02 Garden Party
03 The Institution Waltz
04 Three Boats Down From The Candy
05 The Web
06 Charting The Single
07 Margaret- Concert Poster
- Support Band: Tangent
- Setlist by Mike Eldon
- "Supported by Tangent. We help as roadies… carrying the mellotron up several flights of stairs… never again!"
(Mike Eldon)
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Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Diz Minnitt – Bass
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
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21.01.1982 – The Regal, Hitchin
01 He Knows You Know
02 Garden Party
03 Forgotten Sons
04 Three Boats Down From The Candy
05 The Web
06 Charting The Single
07 Margaret- Ticket
- Marillion with Jackie Lynton Band
- Setlist by Mike Eldon
- Entry in Paul Shorter’s diary on 19.01.1982!
- "Regal – ace new venue. Ace set by Marillion. Took 12 photos. Loads of looneys around."
(Paul Shorter’s diary – 19.01.1982)
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Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Diz Minnitt – Bass
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
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22.01.1982 – Technical College, Luton
01 He Knows You Know
02 Garden Party
03 The Web
04 The Institution Waltz
05 Forgotten Sons
06 Three Boats Down From The Candy
07 Charting The Single
08 Grendel
09 Margaret- Concert Poster
- Ticket – Thanks to Paul Shorter
- Setlist by Mike Eldon
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Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Diz Minnitt – Bass
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
Photos by Paul Shorter/picfair.com-
25.01.1982 – The Marquee Club, London
01 He Knows You Know
02 Garden Party
03 Forgotten Sons
04 The Institution Waltz
05 The Web
06 Three Boats Down From The Candy
07 Charting The Single
08 Grendel
09 Margaret
10 Garden Party- First headline show at the Marquee
- Concert Poster
- Ad – Thanks to Claude Micallef Attard
- Coach Ticket
- Support Band: Tangent
- Setlist by Mike Eldon
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Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Diz Minnitt – Bass
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
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26.01.1982 – Old Queens Head, Stockwell (London)
01 He Knows You Know
02 The Web
03 Garden Party
04 Three Boats Down From The Candy
05 Charting The Single- Concert Poster – Thanks to Marko’s Marillion Museum
- Support Band: Idle Flowers
- Setlist by Mike Eldon (read Paul Shorter’s comment below!)
- The set included an impromptu jam with Phillip Bell of Sounds on guitar – Thanks to Mark Kelly
- "Heck! Fish’s P.A. blew! Got vocal P.A. from van. While Phillip Bell from Sounds jammed with others. Blues version "I Know What I like". Did three songs! Time to go. Pub run by morons. A step-down from last night!"
(Paul Shorter’s diary – 26.01.1982) - "Support from Idle Flowers. After the highs of the Marquee comes the downfall… Stockwell! The band play in the dingy backroom of a pub, to an audience of around a dozen! The front of the bar is populated by elderly Caribbean gentlemen most amused by the band!"
(Mike Eldon)
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Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Diz Minnitt – Bass
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
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27.01.1982 – Electric Stadium, Chadwell Heath (London)
01 Garden Party
02 He Knows You Know
03 Forgotten Sons
04 The Institution Waltz
05 The Web
06 Three Boats Down From The Candy
07 Charting The Single
08 Grendel
09 Margaret- Ad
- Support Band: Spot The Joker
- "Bloody good. Got recorded. Tim around. Home at 3. Took Mark K. home ‘cos no trains. Low roof to stage. Large empty pub. Listened to the recording after gig."
(Paul Shorter’s diary – 27.01.1982)
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Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Diz Minnitt – Bass
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
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28.01.1982 – 101 Club, Clapham (London)
Setlist unknown-
- Photo by Justin Thomas
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Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Diz Minnitt – Bass
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
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- From left to right: Steve Rothery, Diz Minnitt, Fish, Mick Pointer and Mark Kelly – Photo by Justin Thomas
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29.01.1982 – BBC Maida Vale 6, London (Friday Rock Show)
01 Forgotten Sons
02 Three Boats Down From The Candy
03 The Web- Produced by Tony Wilson and engineered by Dave Dade
- Last recording session with Diz Minnitt
- First broadcast: 26.02.1982
- YouTube: BBC Session 1982
- Demo Tape – Thanks to Denis Thomas
- Review by Phil Hall
Marillion/Separated Out – The Complete History 1979-2002
After Marillion’s first Marquee headline (25.01.1982), the band was invited to the BBC Studios at Delaware Road, London to record a session for Tommy Vance’s show. The recording took place with Tony Wilson at the production helm, to capture old favorite The Web, as well as two newer tracks – Three Boats Down From The Candy and Forgotten Sons. The broadcast was made a month later on 26.02.1982, a significant event, in that marillion’s trademark sound had: for the first time, left the Thames Valley and reached the furthest points of the United Kingdom. It also proved to be Diz’ last recording, though he didn’t know at the time.
In February 1982 the first issue of Marillion’s official fanzine The Web was released. Written by Tim Hollings, its first words were, “Hi, this newsletter is designed as a means of expression for both the band and you, the people, who have supported Marillion in the past and, we hope, the future.” Little did anyone know at this stage, that this means of expression would still be published 20 years later! The Web proved its value very early on, as a request in an early edition encouraged fans to request the Friday Rock Show session again. The BBC were inundated with requests, leading to a repeat of the session in May “by popular demand”. As the popularity continued to grow, Mick’s girlfriend Stef Jeffries was brought in to help Tim write the fanzine.
(Jon Collins: Marillion/Separated Out – The Complete History 1979-2002)In Session Tonight – The Complete Radio 1 Recordings
Fish: "We were playing small clubs everywhere in summer 1981, and then did our first date at the Marquee in October. About the same time we tried Tony Wilson out with a couple of tapes, and then he came down to a gig, and the session was on. You had to be fully rehearsed to do those sessions, there wasn’t time to mess about, and I think that’s very good for encouraging professionalism in bands. I remember getting lost with all the FX we could get on the vocals.
The broadcast itself was one of the key career moments for the band: basically, we were able to turn professional in March, and headlined a tour in Scotland on the strength of the session shortly afterwards. We weren’t signed to EMI until September that year, and until then, having done the radio session was a major feather in our cap, in promoting the fact that there was a definite buzz about the band."
(Ken Garner: In Session Tonight – The Complete Radio 1 Recordings)-
Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Diz Minnitt – Bass
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
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Info
- January 1982: Photo Session for Sounds by Justin Thomas
- “It was a cold, wet afternoon in January. I’d just done a photo session with Marillion in Trafalgar Square, which was for Sounds, and we’d popped into the old Joe Lyons coffee shop to dry off. I asked a couple of passing waitresses if they could drape themselves around the made-up Fish while I photographed him. Laughing, the girls asked whether “the guy” was famous or just some sort of clown. To be fair, Fish wasn’t all that comfortable with the shot. But Marillion were a great bunch of guys to work with, always professional, eager to please and full of enthusiasm. Which are qualities that helped to eventually bring them their deserved success.”
(Justin Thomas)
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02.02.1982 – The Kensington, Kensington (London)
01 He Knows You Know
02 The Web
03 Garden Party
04 Forgotten Sons
05 The Institution Waltz
06 Three Boats Down From The Candy
07 Charting The Single
08 Grendel
09 Margaret- Concert Poster
- Setlist by Mike Eldon
- "Bloody good. Sat on steps. 50p entrance. Mick gave us a history lesson. Privet: “you gonna freak out tonight!” Plans for Institution Waltz costumes at Friars."
(Paul Shorter’s diary – 02.02.1982)
Photos by Diz Minnitt – Thanks to Marko’s Marillion Museum-
Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Diz Minnitt – Bass
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
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06.02.1982 – Westhill Collge, Birmingham
Setlist unknown- This show is confirmed by Diz Minnitt
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Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Diz Minnitt – Bass
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
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11.02.1982 – Bangor University (The Curved Lounge), Bangor
Setlist unknown- Sounds, February 1982: Ad with tour dates
- Concert Poster – Thanks to Diz Minnitt and Marko’s Marillion Museum
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Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Diz Minnitt – Bass
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
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12.02.1982 – Bangor University (Main Bar, Students’ Union), Bangor
01 He Knows you Know
02 Garden Party
03 Forgotten Sons
04 Three Boats Down From The Candy
05 The Web
06 Grendel
07 Margaret
08 Charting The Single
09 Garden Party"Second night added at last minute because the van broke down and they had nowhere to go!"
(Bill Frech)"The brakes of the van failed on the way to the first show and we had to wait for it to be fixed."
(Diz Minnitt)-
Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Diz Minnitt – Bass
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
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13.02.1982 – Royal Navy Club, Tonypandy
Setlist unknown- This show is confirmed by Diz Minnitt
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Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Diz Minnitt – Bass
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
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14.02.1982 – Newbridge Memorial Hall, Newbridge
Setlist unknown- This show is confirmed by Diz Minnitt
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Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Diz Minnitt – Bass
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
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20.02.1982 – Maxwell Hall, Aylesbury (Friars)
01 The Web
02 Garden Party
03 The Institution Waltz
04 Three Boats Down From The Candy
05 Forgotten Sons
06 Margaret
07 Charting The Single- Ad – Thanks to Peter Exley
- Concert Poster – Thanks to Mike Eldon
- Concert Poster – Thanks to Claude Micallef Attard
- Concert Poster and more infos about the show at Friars Aylesbury Online
- Supporting: John Otway and Wild Willy Barrett, with No Nonsense, Cruise
- "Marillion greato. Union jack face. Cucumber sandwiches. O(tway + B(arrett) not funny. Fish’s blood did not work. He stank of ketchup + vinegar. A big venue is a rather stunning gig-place for Marillion. Everybody shows interest. Vivid colours tonight (maan)."
(Paul Shorter’s diary – 20.02.1982)
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Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Diz Minnitt – Bass
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
Photos by Paul Shorter/picfair.com-
26.02.1982 – College Of Technology, Canterbury
01 Forgotten Sons
02 Three Boats Down From The Candy
03 The Web- Concert Poster – Thanks to Andre Rostek
- Concert Poster – Thanks to Marko’s Marillion Museum
- Flyer – Thanks to Marko’s Marillion Museum
- Marillion with Pallas
- Setlist by Simon Smith
- Setlist very likely incomplete!
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Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Diz Minnitt – Bass
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
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Info
- Sounds, 27.02.1982: The Madcap Raps by Philip Bell
- Sounds, 27.02.1982: The Madcap Raps by Philip Bell
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27.02.1982 – Starlight Rooms, West Hampstead (London)
01 He Knows You Know
02 Garden Party
03 The Web
04 Charting The Single
05 Three Boats Down From The Candy
06 Forgotten Sons
07 Margaret- Concert Poster – Thanks to Paul Shorter
- Flyer – Thanks to Marko’s Marillion Museum
- Marillion with Pallas
- "Pallas odd. Silly mask. Lot’s of bongs and smoke. Got posters."
(Paul Shorter’s diary – 27.02.1982)
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Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Diz Minnitt – Bass
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
Photos by Andy Inman-
01.03.1982 – Dingwalls Club, London
01 He Knows You Know
02 Garden Party
03 The Web
04 Three Boats Down From The Candy
05 Forgotten Sons
06 Margaret
07 Charting The Single- Ad, provided by Marko’s Marillion Museum
- Marillion with Bad Detective and Scarlet & The O’ Haras
- "Mick’s car. Dingwalls around canal end. Really good odd scene place. Good shop things. Really nice place. ½ price booze. Mark met Helen and Amanda. Fish is godparent. My fave. set for ages."
(Paul Shorter’s diary – 01.03.1982)
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Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Diz Minnitt – Bass
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
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06.03.1982 – Bedford College, Bedford
01 He Knows You Know
02 Grendel
03 The Web
04 Garden Party
05 Chelsea Monday
06 Three Boats Down From The Candy
07 Charting The Single
08 Forgotten Sons
09 Margaret- Concert Poster – Thanks to Denis Thomas
- Support Band: MPH (with Jason Hook, read below!)
- Setlist by Mike Eldon
- "On guest list. No money. Steve’s car. Sat in S.U. bar with Fish + that lot. Fish in a very strange "pop" mood. Steve’s guitar mucked up. First set with Chelsea Monday. Really good. Packed away. Home late."
(Paul Shorter’s diary – 06.03.1982)
Fish
“Chelsea Monday was written roundabout January or February this year. The lyric idea was spun by seeing a number of people walking about Chelsea on a very, very early Monday morning. And it was this sort of actors that you don’t know their names. And they were going down buying the morning Daily Expresses, it was a ritual, and they were looking at themselves in the window, as if to buy the paper was actually a take, it was part of some formal play they were in.
It was also about young ladies, who often, sort of like me, live in their bedsit apartments, and they’ve got their Marks & Spencer’s duvets and their collections of books and things. We put the two ideas together and confirmed that with the dreamers that you often get down in London that think that the paths are actually paved with gold. And we came up with this, again typical Marillion depressive vibe thing, where you’ve got the girl in the bedsit. She’d love to be an actress, but she’s never got the guts to sort of make that jump from standard 9-5 into the great big world of entertainment industry. And rather than face the prospect of failure, she decides that she’s going to commit suicide and go out in a blaze of fame. It’s one of those nice, sad, depressing vibes.”
(Fish @ Radio Forth, 14.09.1982)Jason Hook
I was also in a band myself, named MPH. We were a local rock act with a mixture of self penned songs and covers in our repertoire. We had a small following locally, which led to the local SU promoter asking us to support the then up & coming Marillion at the teacher’s training college in Bedford. This was a much larger venue which had hosted a few “named” bands over the years. We obviously jumped at the chance.
My endearing memory of this gig was turning up at the college mid-afternoon in my Mum’s Volvo, with our drummers kit thrown in the back. Upon arrival, we were met outside the hall by a tall geezer with a Scottish accent who was having a crafty smoke I seem to recall. His first words to us were to offer to help carry the drum kit in through the side doors… it then dawned on me. It was Derek Dick himself, shorn of the makeup and stage outfit I’d only ever seen him in previously. Marillion were making headway in the media by this time, so it was a well attended gig, and I think I’m correct in saying shortly after this, Fish appeared in full face paint on the front cover of Sounds.
Another memory from this gig was the sound check. Our drummer was well known locally for his proficiency on the skins, and he had the cheek to ask if he could have a blast on Mick Pointer’s sizeable kit. The sound guys/road crew allowed him a bash, only for him to leave them gobsmacked by his natural ability. He was a showman, to be fair.
That was the last I saw of Marillion in intimate venues. The next time I saw them, they were on a huge stage at Reading. Script is my favourite Marillion album, and the songs from those early days still resonate with me today."
(Jason Hook @ Facebook, 24.11.2020)-
Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Diz Minnitt – Bass
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
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07.03.1982 – The Marquee Club, London
01 He Knows You Know
02 Grendel
03 Garden Party
04 Chelsea Monday
05 Three Boats Down From The Candy
06 The Web
07 Forgotten Sons
08 Margaret
09 Charting The Single- Flyer – Thanks to Mike Eldon
- Flyer
- Ad – Thanks to AJ Samuels
- Ad
- Ad
- Coach Ticket – Thanks to Paul Shorter
- Coach Ticket – Thanks to Joanne Tyrrell
- Support Band: Solstice (with former Electric Gypsy Andy Glass on guitar)
- "Everyone. Really good set. Bloody hot. Fish’s eyes yucky!"
(Paul Shorter’s diary – 07.03.1982)
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Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Diz Minnitt – Bass
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
Photos by Diz Minnitt (provided by Marko’s Marillion Museum) and Andy Inman-
Info
- Kerrang!, 11.03.1982: Armed & Ready by Geoff Banks – Thanks to Claude Micallef Attard
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Info – Pete’s Audition (by Jon Collins)
Marillion/Separated Out – The Complete History 1979-2002By March 1982 it was time for a second twist of the knives: it was Fish’s long-time friend, Diz, who would meet the sharp end. “We couldn’t have a band with passengers,” explains Fish. “The band had come to me and said, he wasn’t good enough. I couldn’t argue my corner, I don’t think, the band would have happened like it did with Diz still in it. That was a tough for me, he was one of my best friends.”
Meanwhile, not so much passenger but driver, Guy was realising, that his own time with the band had reached the end of the road. “With the numbers of gigs, I was finding it more and more difficult to get time off,” explains Guy. “Besides, once the band had found an agent (and then a manager), I was becoming more and more sidelined.” And that was that for Guy, well almost: he went on to perform a similar role for Andy Glass’s band Solstice.
Fish had heard about a “pop” band called The Metros, who were on their last legs, but who also had a pretty good bassist. He turned up at a Metros gig at The Kings Head in Aylesbury – in fact a leaving party for the bar staff, before the place shut down for refurbishment. To quote then-bassist for The Metros Pete Trewavas, “There was quite a big occasion being made of it, we did a whole evening of rock and roll, which seemed to go down quite well!” The stout Scot chattered to the diminutive bassist about Marillion’s predicament. Fish played his cards quite close to the chest, explains Pete, “He told me, that they’d held some auditions, but he wasn’t sure, how it was going to go. They had a tour coming up, and he was asking me if I knew of anyone.” Pete, who had already seen Marillion play, quite fancied the job for himself. “I’d been into pop and new wave as that’s where the work was, but Marillion were very different!” Despite being unsure, if he would be taken seriously (or if Marillion would be taken seriously, as he remarks, “I wasn’t sure, there was room for it in this days and age!”), Pete asked for an audition. “I felt they were going places, just purely because of the way they acted and put themselves across,” says Pete.
Whilst Diz holidayed with Helen, Pete was secretly auditioned in the garage at the back of Victoria Street. The audition was a bit uncomfortable – remembers Pete, “I had very short, slightly red hair at the time and was wearing white trainers, which was a bit of a no-no! They asked me what music I was into, I told them, that I’d been listening to Haircut 100 and their eyes got wider and wider! If I’d said, that I had a load of Caravan, Pink Floyd and Genesis in my collection, maybe they would have taken me a bit more seriously…”
Pete pressed on regardless, plugged in (he recalls being told, “You can use Diz’ amp, he won’t mind”) and started tuning up. “We were so impressed by his tuning up, that we gave him the gig there and then!” remembers Mark. Nearly true – the boys had one more person to see, but Pete was pretty much in. The decision was made in a well-concealed pub at the end of an alley off Market Square, known as The Dark Latern. “We decided to go to a pub, we’d never been before, so we wouldn’t meet anyone we knew,” recalls Mark. Ironically, it was here, that he bumped into Suzy Coleman, who would become his future (ex-)wife. “She came over, ‘cos she recognised Fish,” says Mark.
(Jon Collins: Marillion/Separated Out – The Complete History 1979-2002)
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25.03.1982 – Dacorum College, Hemel Hempstead
01 He Knows You Know
02 The Web
03 Garden Party
04 Chelsea Monday
05 Three Boats Down From The Candy
06 Forgotten Sons
07 Charting The Single
08 Margaret- Concert Poster
- Ticket
- Ticket – Thanks to Marko’s Marillion Museum
- Support Bands: Solstice (with former Electric Gypsy Andy Glass on guitar) and Clive Product
- Setlist by Mike Eldon
- Last show with Diz Minnitt
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Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Diz Minnitt – Bass
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
Photos by Paul Shorter/picfair.com-
26.03.1982 – Starting Gate, Milton Keynes
01 He Knows You Know
02 The Web
03 Three Boats Down From The Candy
04 Chelsea Monday
05 Charting The Single
06 Garden Party
07 Forgotten Sons
08 MargaretScript For A Jester’s Tear (Remaster 1997) – Sleeve Notes
The next weak link was Diz, whose bass playing was becoming suspect mainly due to Mark’s contribution, raising the overall standard. As the shadow loomed over him, I’d come across Pete Trewavas. Although I knew him from the local music scene in Aylesbury where he’d been the bass player with the Metros, a relatively high profile pop band (which included Robin Boult in its line-up). I’d never seen him play until one night in a local pub in March at a benefit gig, and I was immediately impressed by the bubbly, outgoing bassist, who proved he was a lot more than a good-looking pop musician. He came along for a rehearsal in the garage behind the house in Victoria Street where I now stayed, ironically with Diz.
It was all over, and I was reluctant to fire my best friend at the time and a guy without whom I wouldn’t have even met the band – but the unit had to come first. It was left to me to deliver the news before a show at the Starting Gate, Milton Keynes, one of our strongholds. Needless to say, a four piece played that night and next day rehearsals began with Pete for the forthcoming Scottish tour, a 29 date extravaganza that would mark the band finally turning fully professional.
(Fish: Sleeve Notes in Script For A Jester’s Tear – Remaster 1997)Marillion/Separated Out – The Complete History 1979-2002
The axe fell at what was reputed to be the band’s 100th gig: 26.03.1982 at the Starting Gate, Milton Keynes. Unbeknown to Diz, the band had invited another bassist (according to Diz, from a Saxon-like band in Northampton) along to the gig, so he could check them out. Diz got wind of things and asked Steve Rothery, what was going on – before long it had all come out. Fish broke it relatively gently, but Diz did not take the news well. “Fish said, “you can hit me if you like,”” says Diz. “I was devastated, but having been involved in Brian’s departure, I couldn’t say I had no blood on my hands. As an observer, I can see, why they did it. My standard of musicianship and my style did not fit with the others, but I’d poured all my energy into it, emotionally and physically.” Asking the others to ensure his equipment was returned (it was already on stage), Diz went home [10 min.] before the performance. The remaining four managed to cover for the missing bass line, coping admirably for a one-off.
Back home, other loose ends had to be tied up, including the fact, that Fish, Mark and Privet shared with Diz and Helen at the time. Priv stayed on, “I was still there even after 1983, when we went to America for the first time!” he laughs, but before long Mark and Fish moved out to Rothers’ place at Ingram Avenue, Aylesbury. Steve describes it as, “A semi-detached house on quite a nice estate. The locals saw it as some sort of hippie commune.
The worst was yet to come for Diz, when he found himself written out of history, 1984-style. He never claimed to be the artistic key player of the band, but when he found, that his contribution was to be annulled (not to mention his take on any rewards for it), it was more than he could bear. “Fish told me, they’d rewritten the bass tracks with Pete, and I wasn’t going to get anything. Having known, I did contribute to various tracks, I felt totally abused, my trust was violated completely. That was the bit, I found, by far the hardest.” It would be four years before an out-of-court settlement later recognised both Diz and Brian’s input. “The driving force was never financial, it was to get a co-writing credit,” says Diz, “They said, I was there as a passenger, that always galled me!”
(Jon Collins: Marillion/Separated Out – The Complete History 1979-2002)Diz Minnitt
"Only soundchecked Chelsea Monday with the band and then left!"
(Diz Minnitt)-
Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Brian Jelliman – Keyboards
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
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Info
- April 1982: Marillion Dump Diz and Report with Scotland 1982 tour dates – Thanks to AJ Samuels
- April 1982: Old Syle Look With New Style Sound (source and author unknown) – Thanks to Paul Shorter
- Pete and Steve – 1982
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02.04.1982 – General Wolfe Club, Coventry
01 He Knows You Know
02 The Web
03 Garden Party
04 Chelsea Monday
05 Three Boats Down From The Candy
06 Charting The Single
07 Forgotten Sons
08 Margaret
09 Market Square Heroes- First show with Pete Trewavas
- Debut of Market Square Heroes – Thanks to David C. Morton
- Photos of the Venue by Steve Mobley
Marillion/Separated Out – The Complete History 1979-2002
On 2nd April, Marillion played the General Wolfe in Coventry, Pete’s first live date. It was also Priv’s first performance, as he recited the prayer in Forgotten Sons while Fish “mixed”. “He sat by the mixing desk drinking beer,” says Priv. “I was utter crap, the reviews were scathing!”
(Jon Collins: Marillion/Separated Out – The Complete History 1979-2002)-
Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
Pete Trewavas – Bass, Backing Vocals
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Info
- NME, 03.04.1982: Ad with tour dates – Thanks to Guy Tkach
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08.04.1982 – Taboo Club, Scarborough
01 He Knows You Know
02 Garden Party
03 Grendel
04 Three Boats Down From The Candy
05 Chelsea Monday
06 The Web
07 Forgotten Sons
08 Margaret- Setlist by Paul Bibby
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Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
Pete Trewavas – Bass, Backing Vocals
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Assault On Scotland
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April – May23 Shows
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Info
- 2 shows of this tour were cancelled
- Concert Poster (with Pallas) – Thanks to Denis Thomas
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10.04.1982 – The Heathery Bar, Wishaw (Lanarkshire)
Setlist unknown- A "lost" tour date – Thanks to Gerry McDermott
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Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
Pete Trewavas – Bass, Backing Vocals
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11.04.1982 – Kaim Park Hotel, Bathgate
01 Garden Party
02 Grendel
03 The Web
04 Chelsea Monday
05 Three Boats Down From The Candy
06 Forgotten Sons
07 Margaret- Photo by unknown photographer
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Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
Pete Trewavas – Bass, Backing Vocals
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12.04.1982 – Tamdhu, Bannockburn
01 Garden Party
02 Grendel
03 The Web
04 Chelsea Monday
05 Three Boats Down From The Candy
06 Forgotten Sons
07 Margaret-
Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
Pete Trewavas – Bass, Backing Vocals
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- 14.04.1982 – Goldenstones Hotel, Dunbar
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15.04.1982 – Nite Club, Edinburgh
Setlist unknown- Support Band: Snakebite
- "The shows 15th April 1982, 12th September 1982 and 12th November 1982 were at the Nite Club, not Night Club!"
(Pete Forster)
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Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
Pete Trewavas – Bass, Backing Vocals
Photos by Laura Gibbs Dick, thanks to Stef Jeffery Depolla- 16.04.1982 – Victorian Carriage, Greenock
- 17.04.1982 – Tor-Na-Dee Hotel, Dunoon
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18.04.1982 – Ben Lomand Hotel, Balloch
Setlist unknown- Privet Hedge on vocals and Fish on soundboard!
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Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
Pete Trewavas – Bass, Backing Vocals
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19.04.1982 – Astor Hotel, Broxburn
Setlist unknown- Support Band: Snakebite
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Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
Pete Trewavas – Bass, Backing Vocals
- 21.04.1982 – The Dial Inn, Glasgow (Afternoon Show)
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21.04.1982 – The Dial Inn – Glasgow (Evening Show)
01 He Knows You Know
02 Garden Party
03 Grendel
04 The Web
05 Three Boats Down From The Candy
06 Chelsea Monday
07 Forgotten Sons
08 Margaret
09 Garden Party- Sounds: Review by Philip Bell – Thanks to Andre Rostek
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Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
Pete Trewavas – Bass, Backing Vocals
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22.04.1982 – Ice Rink, Inverness
Setlist unknownMarillion/Separated Out – The Complete History 1979-2002
On 22nd April (1982), at the Inverness Ice Rink, Marillion met a young fan called Avril Mackintosh. “I’d won a competition on the Tony Ferry show on Radio Scotland,” says Avril. “The boys were really friendly, but Fish was a bit funny.” Avril took the opportunity to seek some advice from Mr. Hedge (who was on no mean learning curve of his own). “I went to Priv and asked, how do I become a sound engineer?” recounts Avril. Whatever he said, it triggered the first step of a journey that let to Advision Studios, six years later, where Avril assisted the mixing of Clutching At Straws. It’s a funny old world.
(Jon Collins: Marillion/Separated Out – The Complete History 1979-2002)Photo by Fish
"As you know, I’ve been going through dusty boxes as I sort out the studio control room and I came across this photo from 1982. This was taken at the car park at South Queensferry overlooking the Forth Road Bridge. I reckon this was taken on 22nd April as we headed up North Scotland for the first time on our way to a gig at the Inverness Ice Centre.
From left: Pete Trewavas, Chris "Privet" Hedge, slightly obscured by Sounds journalist Phil Bell who came out with us for a few days and who was an early champion of the band writing one of our first reviews in Sounds, Mark Kelly, a fan who’s name I forget but think it could have been Ian Bruce who helped us out as an unpaid "roadie", Mick Pointer and a distanced and seemingly disgruntled Steve Rothery.
They look like a bunch of Fagin’s raggedy ass kids who’ve been promised an ice cream, but the van didn’t show up in the viewing car park that day. I’d booked the entire tour myself on the back of the Radio 1 Rockshow session, and this was to be about our 10th gig in less than salubrious venues. There were a lot more to go, and this would be the tour that "broke" us in Scotland. Going from this photo, you might assume "mentally broken". 🙂
We met Avril Mackintosh for the first time at the Inverness show. It was the gig that inspired her into getting involved with the music business, and five years later she was in the studio with us mixing Clutching At Straws with Chris Kimsey."
(Fish @ Facebook – 11.02.2022)-
Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
Pete Trewavas – Bass, Backing Vocals
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Photos by Kevin Mackenzie-
23.04.1982 – Longmore Hall, Keith
Setlist unknown-
Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
Pete Trewavas – Bass, Backing Vocals
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24.04.1982 – Hotel International, Grangemouth
01 He Knows You Know
02 Garden Party
03 Grendel
04 The Web
05 Three Boats Down From The Candy
06 Chelsea Monday
07 Forgotten Sons
08 Margaret
09 Market Square Heroes
10 Charting The Single- Concert Poster – Thanks to Steve Drysdale
- Mark Kelly and Fish on stage – Thanks to Steve Drysdale
- Photo by Steve Drysdale
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Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
Pete Trewavas – Bass, Backing Vocals
- 25.04.1982 – Cross Keys, Kelso
- 27.04.1982 – University Chambers Street Union, Edinburgh
- 28.04.1982 – Micks Club, Carlisle (cancelled show)
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29.04.1982 – University of Textiles, Galashiels
Setlist unknown- Fish remembers, amongst others things, Marillion’s first concert in Galashiels:
- Fish Talks To Hugh Brown At Galashiels Market Square Opening (17.07.2012)
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Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
Pete Trewavas – Bass, Backing Vocals
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30.04.1982 – Bowmar Centre, Alloa
01 He Knows You Know
02 Garden Party
03 Grendel
04 The Web
05 Three Boats Down From The Candy
06 Chelsea Monday
07 Forgotten Sons
08 Margaret
09 Market Square Heroes
10 Charting The Single- Setlist provided by René Romswinckel
- Support Band: Snakebite
- "Your site (as does every other site I have seen) lists the gig on 30th April 1982 as being at Alloa Town Hall. This is incorrect. That is where the gig was *supposed* to be, and all the tour literature refers to it as being there, but it was moved to a local leisure centre, the Bowmar Centre. I believe this is because the gig was supposed to be with Pallas who were to go on last and who already had a sizeable following in the area, but they pulled out for some reason. I suspect the gig was moved because Marillion were an unknown quantity and Alloa Town Hall is quite large (know this because I was brought up about 2 miles away from Alloa). I was at the re-arranged gig (with about 50 others) so the decision to move was probably correct."
(Pete Forster)
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Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
Pete Trewavas – Bass, Backing Vocals
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01.05.1982 – Cuinzie Neuk, Kinghorn
01 He Knows You Know
02 The Web
03 Garden Party
04 Chelsea Monday
05 Forgotten Sons
06 Market Square Heroes- Setlist provided by René Romswinckel
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Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
Pete Trewavas – Bass, Backing Vocals
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Info
- NME, 01.05.1982: Ad with tour dates – Thanks to Guy Tkach
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02.05.1982 – The Mayfair, Glasgow
01 Garden Party
02 The Web
03 Chelsea Monday
04 Three Boats Down From The Candy
05 He Knows You Know
06 Margaret
07 Charting The Single
08 Forgotten Sons- Concert Poster – Thanks to Andre Rostek
- Flyer
- Supporting: Pallas
Marillion/Separated Out – The Complete History 1979-2002
As the band toured, it drew the attention of both local and national press. Not all reviews were favourable, for example the Mayfair in Glasgow (reputed to be the best night on the tour) was reviewed by Andrea Miller in Melody Maker, 26th June 1982. “The band sound like early Genesis without the wit… going on and on, they do about five numbers but make them last an hour.”
(Jon Collins: Marillion/Separated Out – The Complete History 1979-2002)-
Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
Pete Trewavas – Bass, Backing Vocals
- 04.05.1982 – Kaim Park Hotel, Bathgate
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06.05.1982 – The Venue, Aberdeen
01 Garden Party
02 Three Boats Down From The Candy
03 The Web
04 Chelsea Monday
05 Forgotten Sons
06 Margaret- Ad – Thanks to Kevin Mackenzie
- Concert Poster – Thanks to Sam Anderson
- Concert Posters – Thanks to Kevin Mackenzie
- Supporting: Pallas
- Gaudie, 19.05.1982: Review by Fiona Dempster – Thanks to Kevin Mackenzie
Photos by Sam AndersonMarillion/Separated Out – The Complete History 1979-2002
Other reviews, though positive, demonstrated early signs of the potential for rifts within the band. Fiona Dempster wrote in Scottish newspaper Gaudie that Marillion’s support of Pallas at The Venue was “a shining performance – it would be difficult to say who was better.” Fiona went on to note how “The rest of the band took a back seat to Fish’s eccentric appearance. This is not to say that the others are not accomplished musicians – they just lack the charisma of Fish.”
(Jon Collins: Marillion/Separated Out – The Complete History 1979-2002)-
Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
Pete Trewavas – Bass, Backing Vocals
Photos by Kevin Mackenzie- 07.05.1982 – Rothes Arms, Glenrothes
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Saliva Tears Tour ’81-’82 – Leg 3
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May – August31 Shows
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Info
- 11 shows of this tour were cancelled
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08.05.1982 – Newbiggin Village Hall, Penrith
01 He Knows You Know
02 Garden Party
03 Grendel
04 The Web
05 Three Boats Down From The Candy
06 Chelsea Monday
07 Forgotten Sons
08 Margaret- "The Marillion gig listed for 08.05.1982, states Newton Rigg Collage at Penrith, is not quite correct! That’s where the band thought it was going to be and turned up accordingly… as did we! Only to be told that the gig was actually to be at Newbiggin Village Hall, just outside of Penrith! Great gig it was too!
- A few days before the Penrith gig Marillion were supposed to play a gig at Micks Club in Carlisle (28th April 1982). Me and a mate turned up, but the band never! Apparently, their van broke down on the way from Edinburgh! The owner of Micks Club gave us our money back and vowed that he’d never help out struggling bands ever again! He was furious!!"
(Nigel Todhunter)
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Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
Pete Trewavas – Bass, Backing Vocals
- 09.05.1982 – Lancaster University, Lancaster
- 10.05.1982 – Riverside Recreation Centre, Stafford
- 11.05.1982 – Pier, Colwyn Bay
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12.05.1982 – Bangor University, Bangor
01 He Knows You Know
02 Garden Party
03 Grendel
04 The Web
05 Chelsea Monday
06 Three Boats Down From The Candy
07 Forgotten Sons
08 Margaret- Concert Poster – Thanks to Andy Ravenscroft
- Concert Poster (signed by the band)
- Setlist by AJ Samuels
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Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
Pete Trewavas – Bass, Backing Vocals
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14.05.1982 – Starlight Rooms, West Hampstead (London)
Setlist unknown- Ad
- Support Band: IQ
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Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
Pete Trewavas – Bass, Backing Vocals
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15.05.1982 – Dingwalls Club, London
Setlist unknown- Ad
- Support Band: The Prams
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Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
Pete Trewavas – Bass, Backing Vocals
Photos by Paul Shorter/picfair.com-
18.05.1982 – The Student Union Bar, Luton
01 He Knows You Know
02 Garden Party
03 Grendel
04 The Web
05 Three Boats Down From The Candy
06 Forgotten Sons
07 Margaret
08 Market Square Heroes- Concert Poster – Thanks to Jon White
- Flyer – Thanks to Mike Eldon
- Ticket, designed by Mike Eldon – Thanks to Robert Laguna Rovira
- Support Band: Dying Sun
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Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
Pete Trewavas – Bass, Backing Vocals
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19.05.1982 – The Marquee Club, London
01 He Knows You Know
02 Garden Party
03 Grendel
04 The Web
05 Three Boats Down From The Candy
06 Forgotten Sons
07 Margaret- Flyer – Thanks to Mike Eldon
- Ad
- Coach Ticket – Thanks to Paul Shorter
- Bill and Ticket – Thanks to Andre Rostek
- Support Band: Ore
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Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
Pete Trewavas – Bass, Backing Vocals
Photos by Geoff Dennison, Paul Shorter/picfair.com, Stuart James and Andre Csillag-
21.05.1982 – The Marquee Club, London
01 He Knows You Know
02 Three Boats Down From The Candy
03 Grendel
04 The Web
05 Chelsea Monday
06 Garden Party
07 Forgotten Sons
08 Margaret
09 Market Square Heroes
10 Charting The Single- Flyer – Thanks to Mike Eldon
- Bill and Ticket – Thanks to Andre Rostek
- Support Band: Solstice
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Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
Pete Trewavas – Bass, Backing Vocals
- 25.05.1982 – Tiffanies, Derby
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29.05.1982 – Sound Cellar, Cambridge
01 He Knows You Know
02 Three Boats Down From The Candy
03 Grendel
04 The Web
05 Chelsea Monday
06 Garden Party
07 Forgotten Sons
08 Margaret
09 Charting The Single
10 Market Square Heroes- Support Band: Solstice
- "Mick Pointer also played drums for Solstice tonight!"
(Mike Eldon)
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Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
Pete Trewavas – Bass, Backing Vocals
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19.06.1982 – Maxwell Hall, Aylesbury (Friars)
01 Three Boats Down From The Candy
02 He Knows You Know
03 Grendel
04 The Web
05 She Cameleon
06 Chelsea Monday
07 Garden Party
08 Forgotten Sons
09 Margaret
10 Market Square Heroes- Ad
- Flyer – Thanks to Mike Eldon
- Concert Poster – Thanks to Claude Micallef Attard
- Concert Poster – Thanks to Paul Shorter
- Ticket
- First headline show at Friars
- Support: Cruise, Solstice
- Debut of She Cameleon
- Report: More Fish at Friars! by Maurice Chittenden
- More infos about the show at Friars Aylesbury Online
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Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
Pete Trewavas – Bass, Backing Vocals
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21.06.1982 – Clarendon Hotel, London
01 He Knows You Know
02 She Cameleon
03 The Web
04 Chelsea Monday
05 Garden Party
06 Forgotten Sons- Support Band: Zoo Radio
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Line-up
Mick Pointer – Drums
Steve Rothery – Guitar
Fish – Vocals
Mark Kelly – Keyboards
Pete Trewavas – Bass, Backing Vocals
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Info
- Sounds, 03.07.1982: Ad with tour dates – Thanks to Walter Dijkers
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01.07.1982 – The Marquee Club, London
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